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Elder Law Attorneys

Timothy Rice Estate and Elder Law

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  • 1 complaint closed in the last 12 months.

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  • Initial Complaint

    Date:03/21/2025

    Type:Service or Repair Issues
    Status:
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    Started March 27, 2023
    despite the significant fees charged for the services, the level of support and representation provided was far below the expected standard.
    Furthermore, the advice provided to us has often been unclear and contradictory. As a layperson, we relied on your expertise to guide her through complex legal processes. However, the inconsistent guidance we received has only added to our confusion and frustration.

    Business Response

    Date: 04/24/2025

    Since attorneys have an ethical obligation to maintain
    client confidentiality, we will do our best to reply to this complaint in
    detail without violating any prevailing rules of ethics that may apply.   We also believe that to properly understand
    the nature of what happened here, we need to explain the complexities of the
    area of law for which we provided services to the client.

    We have been providing assistance to this client (either
    directly or through her power of attorney) since February 2023.  Initially, we were retained to review and
    assess a long-term care facility contract and provide written advice to the
    client on applying for the ******** program which covers the cost of long-term
    care for eligible applicants.  We are
    experienced attorneys in this area of law and have successfully represented hundreds
    of clients over the years in this regard. 
    Having said that, the ******** program is extremely complex and demands
    a great deal of time and attention by our clients.  ******** applications are submitted to the
    attention of the local county Board of Social Services (hereinafter referred to
    as the “Agency”) and along with the application, the Agency requires
    substantial supplemental financial and other documentation.  These cases are very detail oriented and time
    sensitive, so we are always very clear with our clients on what they should
    expect. 

    The client engaged us to assist her in the filing of a
    ******** application which was submitted in August 2024.  Along with our application, the client
    (through her POA) supplied hundreds of pages of documents totaling 14 exhibits.  ******** provides a list of documents that
    should be submitted with each application, but then after review of the
    application and documents supplied, the county Agency often requests additional
    documents.  Our years of experience gives
    us an advantage as we generally know what they may ask for, so we do our best
    to prepare in advance for any additional requests.  The Agency gives the client very little time
    to submit any supplemental documents, so we often need to move very quickly to
    provide the requested documents.   
    However, we are at the mercy of the Agency as far as any supplemental
    requests and we can’t always anticipate what their requests will entail.  Further, if the Agency requests 20 different
    items (for example) and you provide 19, the Agency will deny for failure to
    provide.  We do our best to avoid this,
    especially if there is a valid reason why the client was not able to obtain
    and/or provide what was requested. 
    However, the Agency has been known to take a very rigid stance and deny
    the application regardless of any good cause arguments that may be raised.  It is also important to note that this client
    (as we do with all of our clients) was advised that if she had trouble
    obtaining documents, she should advise us immediately wherein an authorization
    form could be signed by the client which would give us the ability to obtain
    any information on behalf of the client as a means to expedite the process and
    ensure timely delivery.

    In this case, the Agency did make a request for additional
    information.  Our office needed to submit
    a response by November 6, 2024.  All
    deadlines are clearly articulated to the client as they are provided copies of
    all communications from the Agency which clearly state when our responses are
    due.   In addition, we continue to send reminders to the client
    leading up to the deadline via email and telephone communications.  Despite supplying approximately 257
    additional pages, the client failed to provide us with all requested
    documents.  The client was warned on
    several occasions leading up to the deadline that the application would likely
    be denied as a result.   The client would
    provide documents sporadically and as we received them, we would communicate to
    the client what the deficiencies were. 
    She did not provide all documents timely.   As expected, the application was denied on
    December 20, 2024, for “failure to provide”.

    It is important to note that well after the November 6th deadline, the client told us that she needed assistance obtaining certain bank
    records, and on or about December 17, 2024, we had the client sign an
    authorization so that we could assist her in obtaining same.  We were successful in obtaining the
    records.  We immediately filed a second
    application on behalf of the client and along with the application, supplied an
    additional 132 pages of supporting documents (which were not previously
    supplied by the client in a timely manner). 
    On January 28, 2025, the Agency made an additional request for
    information.  We again impressed upon the
    client the importance of getting everything to us on a timely basis, and to
    advise us promptly if she needed assistance to that end.  The client was again made aware of the
    deadline for which the documents needed to be provided.  The client again failed to supply the
    documents in a timely manner, resulting in our second application being denied
    on February 21, 2025.  We would also like
    to point out that we offered the client a discount around the time the second
    application was filed, as she expressed to us that she was experiencing some
    financial hardships.  Taking her
    situation into account, we accommodated the client and provided a discount in
    the amount of $637.50.  We believe our
    rates are very reasonable compared to our competitors, and what the client was
    charged for the firm to file two applications and supplemental submissions is
    often what is charged by other attorneys to file one application. 

    Out of concern for the client’s failure to cooperate and her
    inability to continue to pay our fees moving forward, we suggested to the
    client that she should proceed on her own. 
    She was sent copies of all prior applications and responses to the
    Agency’s requests for information, so she simply needed to complete a new
    application (using the prior two as an example), and supply the few additional
    items not previously supplied in order to get the third application approved.
    We received several email communications from the client’s power of attorney
    demanding that we continue representation. 
    The most recent was dated March 24, 2025.  We also received email communications from
    another family member demanding that we continue our representation at no
    charge.  We advised the client on April
    1, 2025, that we would continue to represent her and advised her of the
    additional retainer that would need to be paid for us to continue to provide
    services.  The client has not responded
    to date.  It is interesting to note that while the client
    alleges in this complaint filed March 21, 2025, that the “level of support and representation provided was far below the
    expected standard” and “the advice provided to us has often been unclear and
    contradictory”, she was demanding in email communications that we continue to
    represent her.

    We vehemently deny the allegations in the complaint and
    assert that we represented this client with a high level of professionalism and
    expertise.   

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