Complaints

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• Initial Complaint

  Date:04/26/2025

  Type:Service or Repair Issues
  Status:

  ResolvedMore info

  Complaint statuses

  Resolved:

  The complainant verified the issue was resolved to their satisfaction.

  Unresolved:

  The business responded to the dispute but failed to make a good faith effort to resolve it.

  Answered:

  The business addressed the issues within the complaint, but the consumer either a) did not accept the response, OR b) did not notify BBB as to their satisfaction.

  Unanswered:

  The business failed to respond to the dispute.

  Unpursuable:

  BBB is unable to locate the business.

  I purchased a 2018 **** F-150 with ****** miles for $27,337 on 4/16/2025. This is my first new car purchase. While I was signing papers to seal the deal, **** **** (Finance Manager) did not check to make sure that I had insurance on the truck before I drove it off the lot. If I had known that it would cost me $420 a month to insure the truck, I would have not bought it. I drove the truck home that night and immediately noticed that the transmission was shifting erratic. I had called the dealership and asked if I could return the truck due to the transmission issues and affordability. The dealership had stated that there were absolutely no returns and all sales were final. I had talked with **** *** (Used Car Sales Manager) and tried to settle this grievance. **** test drove the truck and had agreed that the transmission did have a shuttering. **** had offered a trade-in of $24,500, and I was not pleased to take about a $4,000 hit after sales tax and title fees and price of truck for only owning the truck for a week. I had called a local dealership manager, ***** ********, about my issue. ***** had told me that they need to take back the truck because of the transmission issue and that they broke code when letting a person buy and drive a car off the lot without verifying that the customer had insurance. I sat down with **** *** and asked him if they would take the truck back due to the breaking of the code and transmission issue. **** *** had gotten very heated and stormed off when I mentioned that I would be filing a complaint with the BBB and the Attorney General if he would be unreasonable. He was very rude when I tried to reason with him. I remained calm and did not raise my voice. I put $9,000 down on this truck, and it costs me almost $850 to insure and drive this truck with transmission issues. Im asking that the dealership would give me a refund and take the truck back in its original condition.

  

  Business Response

  Date: 04/28/2025

  Were in contact with this client. Hes bringing the truck in this week to find an amicable solution.  

  Customer Answer

  Date: 05/02/2025

  [A default letter is provided here which indicates your acceptance of the business's response.  If you wish, you may update it before sending it.]
  
  Better Business Bureau:
  
  I accept the business's response to resolve this complaint.
  Thank you for handling this issue very well I will remove any negative ratings and give you a positive 5 star review. 
  Regards,
  
  ***** ******

• Initial Complaint

  Date:03/19/2025

  Type:Service or Repair Issues
  Status:

  AnsweredMore info

  Complaint statuses

  Resolved:

  The complainant verified the issue was resolved to their satisfaction.

  Unresolved:

  The business responded to the dispute but failed to make a good faith effort to resolve it.

  Answered:

  The business addressed the issues within the complaint, but the consumer either a) did not accept the response, OR b) did not notify BBB as to their satisfaction.

  Unanswered:

  The business failed to respond to the dispute.

  Unpursuable:

  BBB is unable to locate the business.

  We purchased a 2020 Kia ****** from Germain Honda of Dublin on January 20, 2025. The dealership knowingly sold us a defective vehicle with an oil leak, brake issues, and engine shaking, none of which were disclosed before purchase.The dealership admitted to having prior knowledge of the oil leak (rated 4/10 severity) yet failed to disclose this during the sale. After weeks of ignored calls (Jan 20-Feb.11) We were finally told to handle the repairs ourselves.After speaking with a manager, the vehicle finally goes in for service and is returned to us on March 4th. The issues persisted and worsened until the vehicle completely died while driving on March 7, 2025. Manager Cricket later admitted that the vehicle was a piece of junk and that Germain Honda had engaged in fraudulent sales practices. She promised the dealership would pay off the loan in full due to the fraudulent sale.Instead of following through, the dealership backtracked, trying to force us into a trade-in instead, stating they would purchase the vehicle back from us, at it's trade-in value. We have wasted months of time, been given the runaround, and are still left with no resolution.We demand that Germain Honda honor their commitment and fully pay off our loan as promised. This dealerships dishonest and deceptive practices need to be fully investigated. - Deceptive Sale Practices Dealership knowingly sold a van with a documented large oil leak.- ****************** Managers repeatedly made promises, then backtracked or postponed resolution.- Attempted Lowball Buyback After promising to pay off the loan, attempted to trade it in at a loss Resolution Sought: Full vehicle loan payoff as promised and formal accountability for deceptive practices.

  

  Business Response

  Date: 03/26/2025

  Our dealership purchased the vehicle back from Mrs *******

  Customer Answer

  Date: 04/04/2025

  [If you do not say why you are rejecting the company's response, BBB must close your complaint.] 
  
  Complaint: 23087172
  
  I am rejecting this response because: Unfortunately this concern has not yet been finalized. We were told by Germain Honda on March 24,2025,  that they would be purchasing the vehicle back from us. My husband and I met with the financial manager on this day to discuss and sign needed paperwork. 
  As of today the vehicle has not been paid off.
  
  
  Yesterday 4/3/25, I emailed the finance manager to check on the status of the payment to our credit union. We were told that we needed to sign more paperwork and were sent an electronic document form titled, Authorization to use cancel money as down payment (2).
  
  I have responded to this document stating again, that we will not be purchasing another vehicle from Germain Honda of Dublin and requested more information as to why this document was needed.
  
  Regards,
  
  ***** ******

  

  Business Response

  Date: 04/28/2025

  Per our General Manager, the vehicle has been purchased back from the customer. 

• Initial Complaint

  Date:02/04/2025

  Type:Service or Repair Issues
  Status:

  ResolvedMore info

  Complaint statuses

  Resolved:

  The complainant verified the issue was resolved to their satisfaction.

  Unresolved:

  The business responded to the dispute but failed to make a good faith effort to resolve it.

  Answered:

  The business addressed the issues within the complaint, but the consumer either a) did not accept the response, OR b) did not notify BBB as to their satisfaction.

  Unanswered:

  The business failed to respond to the dispute.

  Unpursuable:

  BBB is unable to locate the business.

  I bought a 2013 Honda Accord (VIN available upon request, purchase price around $12,500) from Germain Honda of Dublin on Sawmill Road in June of 2022. At the time of the test drive, the only fault I noticed was a slight shaking while braking and a slight rubbing noise that came from one of the wheels. When this was brought up, I was told it should go away as the brakes were just replaced (specifically, the rear rotors and pads, and front pads; but not the front rotors). When I asked why the front rotors were not replaced, I was told that they were fine and that any issues with shaking or noises would ********** it remained an issue for two and a half years, I went to replace the brakes myself on January 25, 2025, and found that there was a rusted socket stuck to the bottom bolt of the driver's side brake caliper mounting bracket. This implies that Germain Honda did in fact try to replace the front rotors, but failed. Instead of resolving the issue (socket stuck to a bolt; replacing severely grooved rotors) they left it there, where it remained for two and a half years. This is not safe, not only was there a socket loosely attached to the car for all ~****** miles it had been driven, but the rotors were significantly damaged. I sent an email as soon as practicable after discovering this (which is attached to the complaint as a PDF with redacted personal information, email version available upon request) and gave a deadline for response, which was not met. I would like compensated for the parts and labor of the job, and an assurance that this negligence will not happen again to anyone else. I would also like a partial refund for driving ****** miles on bad rotors that were intended to be replaced.I kept all the rotors, pads, clips, and the rusted socket. If desired, these parts could provide further insight into this complaint.

  

  Business Response

  Date: 02/06/2025

  We sincerely apologize for Mr. ********* experience. The email address used by to contact our sales manager ******* ****** is invalid, so we never received the complaint. Per our General Manager we will refund Mr. ********* for his parts and labor. Again, our sincerest apologies this occurred. 

  Customer Answer

  Date: 02/13/2025

  [If you do not say why you are rejecting the company's response, BBB must close your complaint.] 
  
  Complaint: 22897298
  
  I am rejecting this response because: While I do agree and appreciate that Germain Honda of Dublin agrees to compensate me for the parts and labor, I would like this to be finalized with an amount and payment sent before this complaint is closed. I would also like confirmation that Germain Honda of Dublin has passed this story along to their maintenance team so that it can be avoided in the future.
  
  Regards,
  
  ********* *******

  

  Business Response

  Date: 02/18/2025

  Check cut for $631.40 and in the customers hands.

  Customer Answer

  Date: 02/18/2025

  [A default letter is provided here which indicates your acceptance of the business's response.  If you wish, you may update it before sending it.]
  
  Better Business Bureau:
  
  I accept the business's response to resolve this complaint.
  
  Regards,
  
  ********* *******

• Initial Complaint

  Date:11/11/2024

  Type:Service or Repair Issues
  Status:

  AnsweredMore info

  Complaint statuses

  Resolved:

  The complainant verified the issue was resolved to their satisfaction.

  Unresolved:

  The business responded to the dispute but failed to make a good faith effort to resolve it.

  Answered:

  The business addressed the issues within the complaint, but the consumer either a) did not accept the response, OR b) did not notify BBB as to their satisfaction.

  Unanswered:

  The business failed to respond to the dispute.

  Unpursuable:

  BBB is unable to locate the business.

  This is the second incident I had with Honda pretending like they did services on my car. 1. In 2023 I had routine oil change; they took a long time on my car over an hour so quite naturally I thought that they were working on my car. As usual they handle your keys with your car already started for you to go but i went across the street and check my oil. I noticed my oil was black and my dipstick show oil below low level, so I took my car back to Honda and confront them. The Advisor looked shocked when I came back and confronted them about my oil being black & below low level. She lied to me & told me that was all the oil they can put in car after oil change but then she proceeds to offer me a free oil change my next visit to keep me quiet 2. This weekend 11/9/24 had express oil change &rotation (coupon $49.99). while in parking on camera i decided to mark my 2 fronts tires with white clear to see eyeliner. I wanted them to see the eyeliner to make sure they did my tires. In 45 min they were done with ******** paid $59.99. I asked over 3 time was everything ok. each time she told me every looked good & minor issue normal crack on tires. Her only agenda was me coming back to spend more money to get routine winter system flushed. I went outside to running car I noticed was both white and long noticeable marks on my tires was still in the front no one had rotate my tires. By the way I had took my glove compartment door off as well as the cap to my filter myself. And no one even touched that as well it was in the same spot. I go back in she called the mechanic I can hear him on the phone and asked him did he rotate my tires he said yes, she proceed to tell him that I had marked my tires and none of them have been rotate. That's when he came up with a quick lie- excuse that my tires were dry rotted. She told me she wasn't going to give money back because original oil change $69.99. i walk outside for air -came back in she gave me $20.00 back to be quiet again

  

  Business Response

  Date: 11/21/2024

  Our service manager, **** ***** reached out to Ms. **** on Nov 12th and brought her vehicle back into the service department on Nov 16th to reexamine and rotate her tires. **** addressed her concerns and printed out a repair order showing all specs. Ms. **** left happy with her experience.

• Initial Complaint

  Date:10/07/2024

  Type:Service or Repair Issues
  Status:

  AnsweredMore info

  Complaint statuses

  Resolved:

  The complainant verified the issue was resolved to their satisfaction.

  Unresolved:

  The business responded to the dispute but failed to make a good faith effort to resolve it.

  Answered:

  The business addressed the issues within the complaint, but the consumer either a) did not accept the response, OR b) did not notify BBB as to their satisfaction.

  Unanswered:

  The business failed to respond to the dispute.

  Unpursuable:

  BBB is unable to locate the business.

  I took my car in for a diagnosis back In May and they supposedly replaced the battery and thats what I paid for but Ive been having issues since then, took it back to German they diagnosed again, replaced the engine and said a sensor is out. In the meantime, they were supposed to get me more info. Didnt hear from them for a week. Had my car towed from their facility to another Honda dealership. Come to find out, the battery was never replaced back in May. I want my money back.

  

  Business Response

  Date: 10/14/2024

  Our service manager, *** ****** reached out to Ms. ***** and we have refunded the monies paid for the battery. We sincerely apologize her visit did not meet the 5-star standard of excellence that our team strives to deliver. 

• Initial Complaint

  Date:09/30/2024

  Type:Sales and Advertising Issues
  Status:

  AnsweredMore info

  Complaint statuses

  Resolved:

  The complainant verified the issue was resolved to their satisfaction.

  Unresolved:

  The business responded to the dispute but failed to make a good faith effort to resolve it.

  Answered:

  The business addressed the issues within the complaint, but the consumer either a) did not accept the response, OR b) did not notify BBB as to their satisfaction.

  Unanswered:

  The business failed to respond to the dispute.

  Unpursuable:

  BBB is unable to locate the business.

  I purchased the 2025 Honda Pilot from Germain Honda on June 22, 2024. Since the date of purchase, I have experienced several significant problems:1.Delay in Receiving Title: Despite the purchase being completed in June, I did not receive the vehicles title until September 23, 2024, which is more than three months later. **** Payment Information Until Late September: I did not receive any payment information for the vehicle until I was contacted by Honda Financial on September 23, 2024. At that time, I was informed that my payment was overdue, despite having no prior communication or invoice regarding payment. 3.License Plate Issue: I have not yet received my permanent license plate. My second temporary plate expired on September 4, 2024. As a result, I have been unable to legally drive the vehicle for almost a month, which has caused significant inconvenience. I have contacted Germain Honda about this matter, but they have not provided a timely or satisfactory resolution.

  

  Business Response

  Date: 10/15/2024

  Prior to this complaint, our General Sales Manager had spoken to Mr. **** and explained that the delay in the title was due to his being out of state and needing to sign paperwork and return it to us. We collected two payments upfront and Honda short-funded the deal. This was also explained and shown to Mr. ***** We explained that after Honda funded the deal,he was responsible for payments to Honda. After receiving this complaint, our Director of Guest Experience reached out to Mr. **** and let him know that with his Ohio title he needed to take it to his local title agency or secretary of state's office so they could transfer it to a ******** title and then issue his plates. To help him better understand some of the delays in the process, she gave him a brief overview of how long it takes for processing and added on out-of-state filing. Once it was explained to him, he was much more understanding. Additionally, we are offering Mr. **** extended service coverage at our Germain Honda of ************ location, which includes two complimentary oil changes, two tire rotations, 15% off parts and accessories, and one complimentary vehicle detail per year for the next two years.

• Initial Complaint

  Date:07/27/2024

  Type:Service or Repair Issues
  Status:

  AnsweredMore info

  Complaint statuses

  Resolved:

  The complainant verified the issue was resolved to their satisfaction.

  Unresolved:

  The business responded to the dispute but failed to make a good faith effort to resolve it.

  Answered:

  The business addressed the issues within the complaint, but the consumer either a) did not accept the response, OR b) did not notify BBB as to their satisfaction.

  Unanswered:

  The business failed to respond to the dispute.

  Unpursuable:

  BBB is unable to locate the business.

  I brought my car to get a repair done I had a leaking valve cover gasket and the incompetent predatory people showed their true colors once again . Where do I begin, I asked them to fix a non working light on my rear view mirror and then ended up getting a broke windshield broken front drivers seat and more lies and the run around then I ever wanted to in my life . But mind you this is a business I filed a complaint with at the ************************ about them Lying shortly after purchasing my car that I needed front struts on my car to **** more money out of me . I took my car back a total of 3 times and they are saying a brand new mirror isnt working and the imbecile service manager told me I would have to shine a flash light on or to get it to work. How laughable its supposed to be green not by shining a light on it. I was also promised by the service manager that he was going to order a part in for my seat as you can see its broke in half. I do not and will never trust them again 3 times is not a charm . The first day I dropped my car off I heard an angry woman saying she would never be back . Why hasnt this business been reported to the **** I can imagine an investigation would be eye opening. I want to know how the service manager would feel if this was his car ???? Enlighten me . They never planned on fixing it in hopes I would buy another one. 2 words : Smoke and Mirrors . What a facade

  

  Business Response

  Date: 07/30/2024

  The below is from our service manager:

  I spoke with her in person. I had ****** look at her vehicle personally. She stated there was not power to the mirror and it is not operating correctly. ****** checked her claim that there is no power to the mirror. There is and the mirror is working as designed. I explained to her what ****** told me. The green lights are actually light sensors not lights. You can shine a light on the mirror and see them. They are the sensors that dim the mirror when you have a vehicle behind you. There is a ******* video that shows that exact thing. She is a previous customer of **************** **********. They kindly told her to never come back there. We have worked on her vehicle several times. Every time she complains of an issue. We have spent more money internally paying for repairs on her vehicle than she has here because of it. The mirror is operating as designed. There is no more we can do mechanically. I dont see in her pictures anything broken on the seat. I can have Ally call her to get more information about that.
  

  Customer Answer

  Date: 07/31/2024

  [If you do not say why you are rejecting the company's response, BBB must close your complaint.] 
  
  Complaint: 22053786
  
  I am rejecting this response because: 
  
  Regards,
  
  *******************************

• Initial Complaint

  Date:06/16/2024

  Type:Customer Service Issues
  Status:

  AnsweredMore info

  Complaint statuses

  Resolved:

  The complainant verified the issue was resolved to their satisfaction.

  Unresolved:

  The business responded to the dispute but failed to make a good faith effort to resolve it.

  Answered:

  The business addressed the issues within the complaint, but the consumer either a) did not accept the response, OR b) did not notify BBB as to their satisfaction.

  Unanswered:

  The business failed to respond to the dispute.

  Unpursuable:

  BBB is unable to locate the business.

  I purchased a car on 05/04. They did not give us a copy of the car fax. The title also hasnt shown up and they wont give me an extension on my temporary tag. Without the title, I am forced to drive with an expired tag. I have sent numerous emails, sent texts, and called to try to get help. They have ignored me and made this whole experience awful. My car also had a hub cap fall off and battery for the car key die within 2 weeks of the purchase. In person, they said theyd contact me to help. Like all the other issues, its been weeks and theyve refused to even attempt to help. Some employees blamed their lack of help on being uneducated about a computer. This difficult task just included sending an email, which they used to respond to the request. Overall, theyve been extremely frustrating, unhelpful, and overall a terrible experience.

  

  Business Response

  Date: 06/21/2024

  We have issued a second temporary tag and have notified the customer that her memorandum title will be emailed directly to her. 

• Initial Complaint

  Date:04/29/2024

  Type:Service or Repair Issues
  Status:

  AnsweredMore info

  Complaint statuses

  Resolved:

  The complainant verified the issue was resolved to their satisfaction.

  Unresolved:

  The business responded to the dispute but failed to make a good faith effort to resolve it.

  Answered:

  The business addressed the issues within the complaint, but the consumer either a) did not accept the response, OR b) did not notify BBB as to their satisfaction.

  Unanswered:

  The business failed to respond to the dispute.

  Unpursuable:

  BBB is unable to locate the business.

  The involved dealership was Germain Honda of Dublin. On 10/14/2023, we bought a certified 2014 Honda Odyssey from Germain Honda after trading in our 2011 model. The purchase price for this new car was $15,665.00, see attachments.The first time I noticed this issue was October 17, 2023. This problem occurred 3 times within 4 months, in which we were told the issue was resolved between the last visit and now. Our sales associate was *****. The first time, they informed me that there was a problem with the sensor on the car which they partially fixed. The next day, on our second visit the same thing occurred, we took it back and they said they fixed the sensor system. The third time, on my way home from work I noticed the car was shaking and a light came on. I didnt know what this light meant, so when I got home I immediately took a picture of the light and went to the dealership. I was told that this was the engine light, meaning that there was a seriously issue with the car, and I should not drive the car but instead tow it to the dealership. We towed the car at our own expense and it stayed there for about 5 or 6 days until they called, saying it was fixed, but I was not given any papers detailing what they did to solve the issue, so we trusted that it was fixed, as we were told. Up until this visit, the car was still under warranty both mileage and timewise. The light stopped blinking but on January 29th, the same problem happened again. According the invoices I was given, the following repairs were completed: Replaced ignition coil and spark plugs. The following services were suggested include Perform Ring Repair #1-3 ($4,699.84) In addition to other services suggested, the total estimate for these problems is $7,227.88. I have attached all required documents including the invoice which detail the overall cost estimated for the repairs needed to be completed. We are still making all payments for both the car and the insurance despite not driving the car.

  

  Business Response

  Date: 05/10/2024

  We have submitted ****************** claim to our warranty company. We are awaiting their decision. Our team will follow up, once a determination is made.

  
  *************************** <*******************************************>
  11:27?AM (53 minutes ago)
  to ********************************************************
  
  Complaint ID:
  
  ********
  
   
  
  Attn: Trezon
  
   
  
  I left a vm regarding this complaint. I responded this morning as it was nearing the timeframe to respond. Since my response, we have heard from the warranty company and our General Manger is reaching out to the customer to offer a discount on repairs. Can we update the response to read:
  
   
  
  Our general manager, *********************** is contacting ************** to offer a discount towards repairs of his vehicle.
  
   
  
  Best ******************************************************************************************************************************************************************* Company
  
  Phone: **************
  Mobile: **************
  
  ************************
  ******************
  GermainCars.com

  Customer Answer

  Date: 05/14/2024

  [If you do not say why you are rejecting the company's response, BBB must close your complaint.] 
  
  Complaint: 21638372
  
  I am rejecting this response because: 

  
  A representative of Germain Honda reached out to me on Friday morning informing me that they would offer me a discount on the repairs my vehicle is in need of as I did not opt for the extended warranty, to which let him know that when I brought the car in to be checked out, it was well within the warranty both time and mileage wise. I let him know that upon the flashing light appearing in the car, I took a picture and immediately went to the dealership where they let me know that this was an engine issue and that I should not drive the car. I had it towed in for an inspection and they said the problem was resolved. The representative was unaware of this situation and said he would obtain further details of the case and reach out to me again with an update either Friday afternoon or Monday however, as of Tuesday night, I have yet to hear back. I am highly unsatisfied with my purchase as Germain Honda has clearly sold me a vehicle in bad shape. I brought the car in for multiple inspections on numerous occasions within the warranty of the vehicle and despite this, I was surprised with the invoice which would cost me approximately half of what I paid for the car. I had the car towed in at my own expense and am currently still paying for both the car and the insurance despite not having driven it since I last brought it back from the dealership in January. For the past 4 months I have not been able to drive the car due to the engine problem, and as a result my wife has not been able to work. Since we are down a car, this has caused a grand inconvenience and a discount isn't enough to make up for the money and time lost as a result of this ordeal. It seems clear that the dealership was aware of the problems this vehicle had from the beginning and has taken advantage of me. As a result, I will not be satisfied with the efforts unless a full refund is issued or proper repair has been completed. Had I knew of these problems or that the dealership would put me in such a situation with a car whose status they were surely aware of, I would not have traded in my clearly running and working vehicle. 
  
  Regards,
  
  *************************

  Customer Answer

  Date: 06/04/2024

  ibalfadul49 <*********************>
  Fri, May 31, 11:06 AM (4 days ago)
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  Hello, 
  
  To whom it may concern, I am reaching out in hopes of getting assistance with my case. Last week, I got a call from ******** from Germain Honda in Dublin. He promised me that they were going to fix my car and that he would get back to me sometime later in the week after memorial day with more details regarding the matter so that I could get it towed in for the repair. However, I have yet to hear back from him up until today. Since then, I have called him numerous times and left him multiple voicemail messages to inquire about the status of my vehicle and the process of fixing it yet he has not returned any of my calls. Please get back to me at your earliest convenience and thank you in advance.
  
  *************************
  ********************* 
  *************
  
  
  
  Sent via the ******* Galaxy Z Flip5, an AT&T 5G smartphone

  Customer Answer

  Date: 06/09/2024

  Update: 

  Hello,

  To whom it may concern, upon first communicating with BBB about my situation regarding Germain Honda of Dublin, the general manager *********************** reached out to me offering a discount on the repairs I was told my car needed. I swiftly and firmly denied this offer as my car was still under warranty when I brought it in and after reaching out to BBB again, was told by him that they would make the necessary repairs on my car like I stated in my resolution to BBB. Last Saturday I had the car towed into the dealership at my own expense and it wasnt until Wednesday June 5th that I got a message from the service manager **** stating that the water pump was leaking in my car and they could replace it for a discounted cost of ****** along with the timing belt. The main issue with this is that this leak was not addressed in the initial inspection they did of the car as I have attached here. The fact that it was missed during the what I assumed to be thorough inspection but somehow appeared now was also strange. This problem could not have occurred by me as I had not driven the car once since having brought it back home in January from said inspection. This can be seen as according to the milage on the car and pictures I have previously attached. I went into the dealership on Wednesday to discuss this and while waiting for ****, another manger named ****** came up to me and said he would be able to address our issue. I let him know of the situation and was very surprised when he stated he had no clue what was going on regarding my vehicle and any updates made on it. He informed me the responsibility would fall on him and other managers in instances like these and he said since the car was going to cost too much to repair, he would give me an estimated trade in value instead. After he did a quick analysis, he let me know the trade in value would be around $8,000 in which I quickly declined, further stating that I clearly bought this car with these issues and I paid more than $15,000 along with the fact that I have continued to pay both the insurance and car payments for the car even though I have not used it since January. After I continued my explanation of the situation and letting them know that they could just continue fixing my car as I was promised, he let me know that he would reach out to Honda and get back to us when he heard back. Late in the day on Friday, I received a message stating that my vehicle was ready for pickup and the repairs were completed but this did not align with what I was told at the dealership and the discussion that was supposed to happen with Honda was not established or brought up at all. Upon arriving to the dealership on Saturday to drop off the rental, I was met with a surprise in that they told me I would need to pay $2,000 for my vehicle as Honda only paid for half. This came as a huge revelation to me as I did not once agree to pay anything regarding this problem and was never told that this would result in me paying for this service. They told me to keep the rental until I speak to **** on Monday as he clearly has not communicated the entirety of the situation with them and I would need to pay in order to get my car back. Once again, this did not align with the previous statement of the general manager as he initially told me before dropping off my vehicle that the problem would be taken care of. On top of that, once I got the invoice detailing the repairs made on my car, they did not exactly correlate to the issues detailed to me on the original inspection. My understanding was that **** promised on the entirety of the repairs but it seems now that was not the case, and despite reaching out to him numerous times regarding the matter I have yet to hear back. Attached are the original documents detailing the repairs needed and a statement of the repairs that were recently done. Thank you in advance for your assistance in the matter.

  Customer Answer

  Date: 06/13/2024

  
  ************************* <*********************>
  Jun 11, 2024, 10:39 AM (2 days ago)
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  Hello,
  
  To whom it may concern, I have reached out to BBB on Sunday in order to get assistance in the resolution of my ongoing complaint with Germain Honda of Dublin. Despite my numerous attempts in reaching the general manager ***********************, I have not heard back and am unsure what to do next regarding this matter. I still have the rental car in my possession as they told me to keep it when I went to pick up my vehicle yesterday when met with a bill of over $2,000 to take my car home. As I was not expecting this charge, I was not going to pay the bill as that was not the agreement made upon by me and ***** I have mentioned previously that I declined any discount to repair my vehicle and am insistent on the full repairs / or complete trade in value for which I purchased my vehicle because it was still under warranty when I brought it in. I am awaiting a response from Germain because I do not want to be charged for the rental in the meantime as they have my bank information and I am not at fault in this case as I was told to keep in the meantime and am in need of a car as mine is still at the dealership, which I cannot bring home until this matter regarding the payment is resolved. On top of this, the agreement made was to completely repair the vehicle and as according to the documents I uploaded yesterday, only some of the repairs were made when compared to the full inspection sheet I was given and told that my car  needed. Please feel free to compare the documents of the past invoice with the repairs provided to the one of the repairs made recently.
  
  
  
  *************************;
  ********************* 
  *************

  

  Business Response

  Date: 06/14/2024

  Our general manager has made several attempts to contact ************** with no success, we will be covering his half of the repairs. If ************** has any further questions he can reach out to *********************** at ******************* or ***************************************. 

  Customer Answer

  Date: 06/28/2024

  
  ************************* <*********************>
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  Mon, Jun 24, 3:54 PM (4 days ago)
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  Dear *****************,
  
  
  
  Germain Honda of Dublin informed me that my car was ready for pickup, last Saturday afternoon. I dropped off the rental car and picked mine up from the service station. As soon as I took it home I realized there was something wrong and the car was making noises it had not made previously so I brought it back to them upon their request after having told them the car was having issues on Tuesday 6/18. My stance with Germain Honda is the same as I remain completely unsatisfied in this regard as I purchased this car to use it which I have been unable to do for many months. As a result of the actions done by Honda, I have resulted to borrowing cars from friends and renting cars because as you can see, the mileage has remained the same and the issues have not been resolved. After last discussing with BBB and being surprised with a bill of $2,000 by Germain Honda, I made a clear and firm stance that I would not pay them for this service because the car was still under warranty when I brought it in. Afterwards, they informed me that my car was ready for pickup but when it started to make these weird noises I was told to bring it in, which I did but they have had my car since last Tuesday. When on the phone with ****, I inquired about the warranty on these repairs to which he told me it would last one year or up to ****** miles, but when I asked him about it later on, he told me that he would have to contact the higher *** to get approval, which once again makes it clear that he has told me one thing and then failed to follow up, taking advantage of me for another instance. I understand that they have been having system issues through a message I received from the service manager ****, but I have not heard any updates even though they informed me they would get back to me by Wednesday or Thursday at the latest and they still have my car in their possession up until today. I have not been informed as to whether the service issue has been resolved or not and I have not had any updates on my car. The main problem right now is that they still have my car and I have not been given a rental in the meantime which puts me in a very difficult situation as my wife needs the car in order to drive my daughter to her school programs. On top of that, once I got the invoice detailing the repairs made on my car, they did not exactly correlate to the issues detailed to me on the original inspection. My understanding was that **** promised on the entirety of the repairs but it seems now that was not the case, and despite reaching out to him numerous times regarding the matter I have yet to hear back. Attached are the original documents detailing the repairs needed and a statement of the repairs that were recently done. **** has stated that he got back to me but I have yet to hear back despite having called him numerous times and leaving multiple messages for him regarding the situation. I have attached screenshots starting Wednesday June 5th that I got from the service manager **** stating that the water pump was leaking in my car and they could replace it for a discounted cost of ****** along with the timing belt. The main issue with this is that this leak was not addressed in the initial inspection they did of the car as I have attached here. The fact that it was missed during what I assumed to be a thorough inspection but somehow appeared now was also strange. At this point in time I am stuck as they have my vehicle and have failed to make things right as they previously stated to me. It is clear to me that they sold me this car which they evidently do not stand behind and is not in good working order, neither now nor when I first purchased it. I also believe they knew the car was under warranty when I brought it in the very first time, a couple weeks after purchasing it which makes it clear to me they have failed to uphold their policy and their belief in their business and products. I would appreciate getting assistance in the matter and thank you in advance for your help. I would also like to thank you for your previous assistance up until now, as if it was not for you at BBB, the little repairs they have made to the car would not have been done because I had tried reaching out to them for previously for months and to no avail, made no progress in the case. Thank you so much and I'm looking forward to hearing from you.
  

   

  
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  Wed, Jun 26, 1:05 PM (2 days ago)
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  I am just following up on Complaint ********. I still have not received an updated Invoice or credit from this company. I appreciate your help!
  
  Sent from *************************** (***************************)
  

   

  
  ************************* <*********************>
  Wed, Jun 26, 3:42 PM (2 days ago)
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  Dear *****************,
  
  
  
  I am reaching out in order to get assistance in resolving my ongoing dispute with Germain Honda of Dublin. As I have stated previously, they asked me to bring my car in last Tuesday after I had informed them that it was making strange noises that it had not previously made. They let me know they had a system outage and they would get back to me as soon as it was fixed. As of this morning I had not heard back with any form of update so my wife went into the dealership to inquire. The service manager informed her he had no idea of the situation and that he would have to look into it. After he checked the system, he said that he would need approval from **** in order to run a systems test, otherwise they couldnt do it without charging us a fee. He also told my wife that the sound was probably the brake as the car had not been driven for some time, which further validates the fact that we have not driven the car. They have made it clear that they have no intention in resolving the matter, and if not for my wife going in today to check on the status, who knows how long it would have been until they informed us of this situation. I have called **** multiple times and left him a message but he has yet to get back to me. Up until now, they still have the car at the dealership and I do not want to take it back as I have not heard from **** directly in all this time. They also have not fixed all the issues they diagnosed in the original invoice in addition to the leakage they mentioned while they were taking a look at the car. On top of all this they have not given me a physical warranty for the service they completed despite informing me that they would. That being said, its clear they have had the car just sitting there with no plans to revolve any of the issues they stated they would. I am reaching out to get advice on what course of action I should take next as it seems clear to me that they are not going to resolve this issue they caused. I am very unsatisfied with this business and it has been made clear to me that they dont stand behind their business, customers, or services. If you could get back to me at your convenience I would greatly appreciate it. 

   

  
  ************************* <*********************>
  Wed, Jun 26, 3:43 PM (2 days ago)
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  Dear *****************,
  
  
  
  I am reaching out in order to get assistance in resolving my ongoing dispute with Germain Honda of Dublin. As I have stated previously, they asked me to bring my car in last Tuesday after I had informed them that it was making strange noises that it had not previously made. They let me know they had a system outage and they would get back to me as soon as it was fixed. As of this morning I had not heard back with any form of update so my wife went into the dealership to inquire. The service manager informed her he had no idea of the situation and that he would have to look into it. After he checked the system, he said that he would need approval from **** in order to run a systems test, otherwise they couldnt do it without charging us a fee. He also told my wife that the sound was probably the brake as the car had not been driven for some time, which further validates the fact that we have not driven the car. They have made it clear that they have no intention in resolving the matter, and if not for my wife going in today to check on the status, who knows how long it would have been until they informed us of this situation. I have called **** multiple times and left him a message but he has yet to get back to me. Up until now, they still have the car at the dealership and I do not want to take it back as I have not heard from **** directly in all this time. They also have not fixed all the issues they diagnosed in the original invoice in addition to the leakage they mentioned while they were taking a look at the car. On top of all this they have not given me a physical warranty for the service they completed despite informing me that they would. That being said, its clear they have had the car just sitting there with no plans to revolve any of the issues they stated they would. I am reaching out to get advice on what course of action I should take next as it seems clear to me that they are not going to resolve this issue they caused. I am very unsatisfied with this business and it has been made clear to me that they dont stand behind their business, customers, or services. If you could get back to me at your convenience I would greatly appreciate it. 

   

  Customer Answer

  Date: 07/08/2024

  Hello, good morning. My name is ****** *****************************. I'm calling today regarding a 2014 Odyssey. You've been talking with my husband, ***********************. We still have a lot of hostilities on the German here in Dublin and the car is still with them and we call many times ************. My husband calls him many times. He didn't answer our call and because we, when we took the car from them after they tell us they do some work on the engine it has a weird sound with by the convenience driving way and they say that they won't have a permission to check from their manager to check what's wrong with the car. Otherwise, it has to be charged to diagnose what the problem is. If you could call me back, I really appreciate it. My phone number is ************. Thank you.

  

  Business Response

  Date: 07/10/2024

  Our service department has made a repair to the vehicle.

  Customer Answer

  Date: 07/11/2024

  [If you do not say why you are rejecting the company's response, BBB must close your complaint.] 
  
  Complaint: 21638372
  
  I am rejecting this response because: 

  The car has not been fixed properly, the car has not been repaired per the inspection completed by Germain Honda. In addition to the water pump and some other issues I was made aware of yesterday, I will not be satisfied until the car is fully repaired as according to the original invoice I received from Honda with all the repairs. Yesterday I received a call from *** of Germain Honda and he left a message indicating that there a number of other issues with the car after he test drove it and would proceed to "wash his hands" in the matter and that I would need to make a decision moving forward as to whether I would invest in the remaining repairs or not. He also detailed new issues other than those they have not fixed from the original invoice including tire balance and a steering issue that he said were present after he drove it. He informed me they would replace the brakes as it is a safety concern but nothing else that was diagnosed. I am dissatisfied with the lack of accountability as the other issues diagnosed were clearly present to begin with as I brought my car in numerous times after purchasing it well within its warranty period and with an invoice as long as it was, would have been impossible for all those issues to arise out of thin air. The car has been at the service center of Germain Honda since the 17th of June, more than 3 weeks at this point and this is the first updated they have given me in regards to a repair they were going to complete, despite me bringing it into them at their request. As I have made clear in my past updates, I have not driven the car since January and despite paying a little over $15,000 for it, I have not gotten much use out of it at all, so much so that it has spent more time in the driveway than actually in use. For these reasons and a myriad of others, I am rejecting the response of the business until they fixed the issues they listed out. 
  
  Regards,
  
  *************************

  
  ************************* <*********************>
  Mon, Jul 8, 10:51?PM (3 days ago)
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  Dear *****************,
  
  
  
  I hope this message finds you well. Since I last contacted BBB I have only one update in regards to my case. I received a call earlier today from *** of Germain Honda of Dublin to which he informed me he was reaching out to me because I had filed a complaint. I told him of the situation as he stated he had my case file out in front of him. I began to explain the situation and he asked me where my vehicle was at the moment. This caught me by surprise and I was disappointed to find out that they have transferred me over to yet another associate who is unaware of my case and any of the information it includes. I told him that I brought in my car on the 17th of June upon the request of Germain Honda and I have not gotten any updates. The fact still remained that they said that they would need approval from **** in order to run a systems test, otherwise they couldnt do it without charging us a fee. At this point I am very frustrated as I am losing more and more money each day, I am still paying for both the car and the insurance and my wife has not been able to go to work as a result of this car issue. I bought the car because I need it and now I cannot even use it for that reason. I have called **** multiple times and left him a message but he has yet to get back to me. Up until now, they still have the car at the dealership and I do not want to take it back as I have not heard from **** directly in all this time. Since the last time I spoke with ****, I had assumed the situation would be resolved as he told me that they would take care of it, however they also have not fixed all the issues they diagnosed in the original invoice in addition to the leakage they mentioned while they were taking a look at the car. On top of all this they have not given me a physical warranty for the service they completed despite informing me that they would. As a result of this, I would greatly appreciate it if all the correspondence could go from Germain Honda to BBB and then to me as they have yet to reach out to me with an actual solution or agreement and they continue to give me different information with every phone call or message they have left. That being said, its clear they have had the car just sitting there with no plans to revolve any of the issues they stated they would. I am reaching out to get advice on what course of action I should take next as it seems clear to me that they are not going to resolve this issue they caused. I am very unsatisfied with this business and it has been made clear to me that they dont stand behind their business, customers, or services. If you could get back to me at your convenience I would greatly appreciate it. 
  
  
  
  Best,
  
  
  
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  Business Response

  Date: 07/11/2024

  We provided thousands of dollars worth of repairs to this point. We have offered him to repair at a discount or trade him out. 

  Customer Answer

  Date: 07/15/2024

  [If you do not say why you are rejecting the company's response, BBB must close your complaint.] 
  
  Complaint: 21638372
  
  I am rejecting this response because: 

  You stated that you spent a lot of money on the car, but that is only the case because you were confident enough to sell a faulty vehicle in the first place, which is not my fault. The fact of the matter is that I had not driven the car, nor had it in my possession long enough for these issues to arise prior to and following the initial inspection with the invoice I have attached. On the other hand, I am a public service employee who works every day to sustain and support his family. I invested in this car because I needed it, spending money I didnt have by financing this vehicle hoping to get a return on it. I also traded in my perfectly running car so that I could purchase this vehicle. I bought the car because I need it and now I cannot even use it for that reason, coupled with the fact that just the presence of this car is causing me to lose money, I have become frustrated in how Honda is handling this issue. I have mentioned previously that I declined any discount to repair my vehicle and am insistent on the full repairs / or complete trade in value for which I purchased my vehicle because it was still under warranty when I brought it in. With that being said, Please feel free to compare the documents of the past invoice with the recommended repairs to the one detailing the repairs that have actually been completed. Up until now, they still have the car at the dealership and I do not want to take it back as I have not heard from **** directly in all this time, making it almost a month since theyve had the car at the dealership since the 17th of June, with no repairs as of yet to show for it. I was informed by *** after he test drove my car that the brake pulsation on the car was bad and so he would need to replace the rotors, however he would wash his hands in the matter regarding the other issues he noticed including tire balance and the steering related issues as a result of the stiff wheel. He said that these problems had nothing to do with piston rings that they replaced and said I would need to make a decision moving forward as to whether I would want to go through with the rest of the repairs at my own expense. I would like to note that the only way I will except the response of Honda is if I am offered a complete repair of all issues listed in the original invoice, as well as the other problems including the water pump that the service manager **** informed me was leaking in my car along with the timing belt. I find it to be concerning that this leak was not addressed in the initial inspection they did of the car as I have attached here. The fact that it was missed during the what I assumed to be thorough inspection but somehow appeared now was also strange. This problem could not have occurred by me as I had not driven the car once since having brought it back home in January from said inspection. As stated to BBB in the beginning of this complaint, I would accept either the complete repair of my vehicle or a trade in value for the vehicle worth the same price that I purchased this one- being $15,665 as the total selling price. That being said, I am not willing to accept a deal which requires me to make any form of payment because as I have already stated, the warranty was still valid when I first brought in my car upon noticing the issues it had. In the meantime I am requesting a rental car as we are currently down a car due this ongoing issue. I am trying to be reasonable and come to a compromise but I am just frustrated as I am losing more and more money each day, and that has been the case since purchasing this vehicle. In short, I am not using the car yet continuing to make payments on both the vehicle and the full insurance, along with this I am losing a source of income as my wife has not been able to work since we dont have our other car. With either of these solutions, I would only accept them if they come with a warranty, both the complete repairs or the trade in. I would greatly appreciate your assistance in this matter and thank you in advance.
  
  Regards,
  
  *************************

  

  Business Response

  Date: 07/18/2024

  Our team is offering ************** fair market value for his trade, or a discount if he pays for the repairs.

  Customer Answer

  Date: 07/21/2024

  [If you do not say why you are rejecting the company's response, BBB must close your complaint.] 
  
  Complaint: 21638372
  
  I am rejecting this response because: 
  

  As I have continued to state, I will only accept either the complete repair of my vehicle or a trade in value for the vehicle worth the same price that I purchased this one- being $15,665 as the total selling price. This cannot be close to market value as I purchased the car for double what I am being offered and I have not even had it in my possession long enough for it to lose value at that speed, unless I was sold a faulty car that already had many extensive and underlying issues that were not addressed or resolved before it was sold to me. I am not going to settle on a discount of the repairs as the car was promised to be certified and none of these issues I am being presented with were caused by me, so I cannot be held accountable for paying to get them completed. That being said, I am not willing to accept a deal which requires me to make any form of payment because as I have already stated, the warranty was still valid when I first brought in my car upon noticing the issues it had. I am not using the car yet continuing to make payments on both the vehicle and the full insurance, along with this I am losing a source of income as my wife has not been able to work since we dont have our other car. With either of these solutions, I would only accept them if they come with a warranty, both the complete repairs or the trade in. With that being said, my vehicle has been in the possession of Germain Honda since the 17th of June with nothing to show for it and prior to that it was parked in the driveway for months. I feel as though my time and money are being wasted and they are not taking this matter seriously in any regard. At this point in time, I am asking for any advice that the BBB can provide me with in this matter as this business does not seem to care about its loyal customers or stand behind its products.
  Regards,
  
  *************************

  

  Business Response

  Date: 07/23/2024

  We are sorry to learn ************** has once again rejected our offer. As far as our dealership is concerned, we have gone above and beyond trying to assist **************. This was our FINAL offer, if ************** wishes to move forward with either of these options, we will be happy to assist. We, however, will no longer participate in this back and forth as our position will not change. 

  Customer Answer

  Date: 07/29/2024

  [If you do not say why you are rejecting the company's response, BBB must close your complaint.] 
  
  Complaint: 21638372
  
  I am rejecting this response because: 
  

  I have mentioned numerous times up until this point that upon noticing the multitude of problems in my vehicle, I brought it back to the dealership straight away and as I have continued to state, it was still under warranty. Germain Honda of Dublin has continuously shown throughout this entire ordeal that they do not care about their customers, values, or reputation as they do not stand behind their business, products, or services. I am very very unsatisfied with their responses, efforts, and the way they have handled this complaint from the very beginning as I have had to talk to many different Honda associates who were not even aware of the case and the general manager **** did not have the decency to reply to my many messages or calls. I am also extremely disappointed in this response because at the end of the day, I am the only one losing money in this back and forth situation while they simply have to reply to my case. Not only has my wife had to stop working since we are now down a car, I have to still make payments on the insurance and car whereas Honda is not losing any money in this constant back and forth communication. I have stated that the only two responses I will except is the complete repair of my vehicle, with all the issues it was sold to me with, including a warranty or a trade in value for the price which I purchased my vehicle at $15,665 with a warranty. That being said, Honda still has my vehicle and has had it since June 17th and I have not been offered a rental. Once again, my stance has not changed since the day I filed my initial complaint being that I requested a complete repair or refund and as more time passes by I remain extremely unsatisfied with not only the efforts of Honda, but how they are responding to my complaint. It seems clear to me that Honda is not taking my case seriously and I am at a loss for words at their handling of the case. I genuinely do not believe they are going to resolve my complaint and would like the advice of BBB on how to further proceed in this matter. 

  Regards,
  
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• Initial Complaint

  Date:04/19/2024

  Type:Product Issues
  Status:

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  Complaint statuses

  Resolved:

  The complainant verified the issue was resolved to their satisfaction.

  Unresolved:

  The business responded to the dispute but failed to make a good faith effort to resolve it.

  Answered:

  The business addressed the issues within the complaint, but the consumer either a) did not accept the response, OR b) did not notify BBB as to their satisfaction.

  Unanswered:

  The business failed to respond to the dispute.

  Unpursuable:

  BBB is unable to locate the business.

  Just bought a 2018 Lincoln Navigator L and within 3 days, the cam phasers in the engine are rattling. The $5K extended warranty they sold me has said they will not cover it, even though I had a Germain Ford dealer diagnose the issue. Very dissapointed as it is a $3800 repair. Now after I just got my vehicle back from them repairing the rims, there is a leak from the front (maybe coolant). I sure hope they didn’t sell me a lemon.

  

  Business Response

  Date: 04/30/2024

  Our manager spoke to Mr. ****** and he will be bringing the navigator in to our dealership to see how we may assist. 

  Customer Answer

  Date: 05/10/2024

  '***** ******' via Dispute Resolution - Shared Inbox <[email protected]>
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  Thu, May 9, 8:28 PM (15 hours ago)
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  Complaint number ********.
  
  Took car into dealership and we are still working out a repair deal to resolve the matter. They have acknowledged there is an engine problem, but they are not equipped to do the repair. 
  
  ***** ******