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Customer Complaints Summary
- 569 total complaints in the last 3 years.
- 93 complaints closed in the last 12 months.
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Initial Complaint
Date:09/01/2022
Type:Product IssuesStatus:AnsweredMore info
Complaint statuses
- Resolved:
- The complainant verified the issue was resolved to their satisfaction.
- Unresolved:
- The business responded to the dispute but failed to make a good faith effort to resolve it.
- Answered:
- The business addressed the issues within the complaint, but the consumer either a) did not accept the response, OR b) did not notify BBB as to their satisfaction.
- Unanswered:
- The business failed to respond to the dispute.
- Unpursuable:
- BBB is unable to locate the business.
I registered with American Safety Council and applied for their 5-hour defensive driving course online($49.00). I started the course and on one of the sections once I completed it I hit continue and it would not allow me to go on to the next section. I called for assistance, I've sent email and a message on live chat and no one has contacted me or answered the phone. I would like my money back so I can go somewhere reputable and complete the course. Please assist. It's been three days with no contact. I have 27 days to complete the course with them and if I don't I lose my money.Business Response
Date: 10/14/2022
Business Response /* (1000, 5, 2022/09/07) */
Emailed the customer directly to either provide assistance or grant refund request.
Emailed customer at *************************** on 9/7/2022 at 2:49PM
Email Transcript:
Hello*****************,
My name is Heather from the escalations team here at American Safety Council. I am following up on your BBB review complaint left on 9/1/2022 regarding your New York 5-hour pre-licensing course. I am so sorry for any inconveniences and frustrations this has caused. I would be more than happy to assist you.
First, I would like to sincerely apologize for the delay in response. I understand this can be very frustrating when you cannot contact a representative via live chat, phone or email in a timely manner. I apologize for this delay in response, at this time we are experiencing unusually high contact volume, so our response time has been affected. We are taking actions to respond as quickly as possible and thank you for your patience and understanding.
In any case, one of our biggest priorities is customer satisfaction, and I'm so sorry we fell short.
I would like to provide you my full and direct attention and provide a solution to your issue. If you would like to proceed with the refund, please respond back with the last 4 of the card used to make the payment and I will start that processing in the full amount of $49.00.
Again I am so sorry for the inconveniences and frustrations this has caused!Initial Complaint
Date:08/30/2022
Type:Billing IssuesStatus:AnsweredMore info
Complaint statuses
- Resolved:
- The complainant verified the issue was resolved to their satisfaction.
- Unresolved:
- The business responded to the dispute but failed to make a good faith effort to resolve it.
- Answered:
- The business addressed the issues within the complaint, but the consumer either a) did not accept the response, OR b) did not notify BBB as to their satisfaction.
- Unanswered:
- The business failed to respond to the dispute.
- Unpursuable:
- BBB is unable to locate the business.
On May 25th 2021 my daughter completed the Basic Driver Improvement course through the American Safety Council. They took our money and she completed the course and has the certificate. However they never submitted to the state and the points are on her license. DO NOT USE THIS COMPANY!! None of the phone numbers work, no answers on email or on line chat. This is a scam and it's still on the Michigan list of approved courses.Business Response
Date: 10/13/2022
Business Response /* (1000, 5, 2022/09/07) */
Emailed the customer to further assist. Since no account can be located at this time, will be asking for account information to locate and provide assistance.
Emailed customer on 9/7/2022 at 1:39PM
Email transcript:
Hello ***********,
My name is Heather from the escalations team here at American Safety Council. I am following up on your BBB review complaint left on DATE regarding your COURSE. I am so sorry for any inconveniences and frustrations this has caused. I would be more than happy to assist you.
First, I would like to sincerely apologize for the delay in response. I understand this can be very frustrating when you cannot contact a representative via live chat, phone or email in a timely manner.
Unfortunately, I was unable to locate your daughter's account with the information provided in the BBB complaint. Can you please provide your daughter's first and last name along with her registered email address and username/order ID number so I can take a look at the reporting issue.
Thanks!Initial Complaint
Date:08/28/2022
Type:Product IssuesStatus:AnsweredMore info
Complaint statuses
- Resolved:
- The complainant verified the issue was resolved to their satisfaction.
- Unresolved:
- The business responded to the dispute but failed to make a good faith effort to resolve it.
- Answered:
- The business addressed the issues within the complaint, but the consumer either a) did not accept the response, OR b) did not notify BBB as to their satisfaction.
- Unanswered:
- The business failed to respond to the dispute.
- Unpursuable:
- BBB is unable to locate the business.
The problem is that the program timers take way too long for the information that is provided. When it is time to call in for a voice recognition, that is also timed. Therefore, I miss the timer and have been locked out of the course. This should not be timed since I have paid for this course to begin with! Since I have been locked out, customer service will not unlock it and they refuse to give my money back or refund for a program that was not even provided. Can I start a business and not provide services paid for?Business Response
Date: 09/20/2022
Business Response /* (1000, 5, 2022/09/07) */
Emailed customer at ********************
on 9/7/2022 at 12:10PM AM to resolve issue directly.
Email transcript:
Hello******* ********
My name is Heather from the escalations team here at American Safety Council. I am following up on your BBB review complaint left on 8/28/2022 regarding your New York defensive driving course. I am so sorry for any inconveniences and frustrations this has caused. I would be more than happy to assist you.
Unfortunately, this system does have check points in the course that are regulatory requirements from the states DMV, but we are sorry to hear that they were frustrating for you. The Biometric system is looking for similarities in your audio sample from your original training sample, so if there is variance (like excessive background noise), that can trigger a review from the system. One requirement to pass this voice biometric feature is to make sure you are calling in and entering your student ID number within the (1) minute and 30 seconds. Once you have called in and entered the 4-digit student ID number, the timer will end, and you will have all the time you need to complete the recording as prompted. The timer is initially put in place to make sure that customers are actively completing their course since there is a time requirement of 30 days from the date of registration to complete it. We do allow a one-time unlock for time expiration in the event that a customer does get locked out for time expiration. Your one time unlock was provided on 8/28/2022 at 10:08AM via a phone representative. The 2nd lock for time expiration occurred later that day at 11:20AM.
As a courtesy we did offer you a promotional code since we are unable to unlock the account per New York state regulations. Since the course is considered to have failed due to the time expiration policy under the voice biometrics, we cannot provide a refund. You can verify this refund policy here: https://www.newyorksafetycouncil.com/refund-policy/#:
:text=Failure%20to%20pass%20identity%20validation%20requirements%20(including%20biometrics%2C%20security%20questions%20or%20any%20other%20required%20methods%2C%20per%20course%20guidelines)%3B .
This policy is also mentioned under our terms and conditions which can be found here: https://www.newyorksafetycouncil.com/terms-and-conditions/#:
:text=Our%20courses%20include,to%20complete%20training. This policy states "Our courses include course elements as required by the state regulating agency for that course, which can include course expiration dates, course timers, learning assessments and identity validation requirements. Students who are excluded from training for failure of any required course elements will be required to re-register to complete training."
We typically do not provide any free courses ( promotional registrations) for any failed courses to those who are not premier pass members, but in this case, we did try to make an exception to provide assistance within our policy.
I apologize about the inconvenience and frustrations this has caused.
I can still provide you that promotional code if you do decide to accept it!Initial Complaint
Date:08/18/2022
Type:Delivery IssuesStatus:AnsweredMore info
Complaint statuses
- Resolved:
- The complainant verified the issue was resolved to their satisfaction.
- Unresolved:
- The business responded to the dispute but failed to make a good faith effort to resolve it.
- Answered:
- The business addressed the issues within the complaint, but the consumer either a) did not accept the response, OR b) did not notify BBB as to their satisfaction.
- Unanswered:
- The business failed to respond to the dispute.
- Unpursuable:
- BBB is unable to locate the business.
I have purchased a course for defensive driving and competed it on the same day, however, I haven't received my certificate even though it's been more than two weeks, given that I even paid for rush processing. They don't respond to emails or phone calls and I have a court date to show the certificate, but I don't have one.Business Response
Date: 09/16/2022
Business Response /* (1000, 5, 2022/08/23) */
Emailed the customer directly to resolve issue. It appears the course was not finalized due too no drivers license number being entered.
Email transcript on 8/23/2022 at 2:oo PM EST
Hello *************,
My name is Heather from the escalations team here at American Safety Council. I am following up on your BBB review complaint left on 8/18/2022 regarding your Texas defensive driving course. I am so sorry for any inconveniences and frustrations this has caused. I would be more than happy to assist you.
After reviewing your account further, it appears that we are missing your driver's license number, which is required for reporting and proper finalization for the certificate. Since we do not have this information, the certificate is not generated and was not finalized. Unfortunately there should have been a notice that would have notified you of this missing information, somehow this notification was not showing in your account. I am so sorry about that inconvenience.
If you can, please respond here with your driver's license number and state and I can make these updates and send you a certificate of completion.
Thanks!Initial Complaint
Date:08/15/2022
Type:Delivery IssuesStatus:ResolvedMore info
Complaint statuses
- Resolved:
- The complainant verified the issue was resolved to their satisfaction.
- Unresolved:
- The business responded to the dispute but failed to make a good faith effort to resolve it.
- Answered:
- The business addressed the issues within the complaint, but the consumer either a) did not accept the response, OR b) did not notify BBB as to their satisfaction.
- Unanswered:
- The business failed to respond to the dispute.
- Unpursuable:
- BBB is unable to locate the business.
I paid for and completed ASC program for Defensive Driving - NY on July 28. I have not received my Cerficate of Completion. I have not been able to speak to customer service, the phone rings for 30 minutes - no answer. I want my certificate!Business Response
Date: 09/08/2022
Business Response /* (1000, 5, 2022/08/23) */
Emailed customer directly to resolve the issue.
Email transcript 8/23/2022 at 1:35pm EST
Hello **************,
My name is Heather from the escalations team here at American Safety Council. I am following up on your BBB review complaint left on 8/15/2022 regarding your New York DMV Approved Defensive Driving Course. I am so sorry for any inconveniences and frustrations this has caused. I would be more than happy to assist you.
Afte reviewing your account, it does appear that the initial certificate was mailed out on 7/28/2022 to the address ****************************************. According to our records, the certificate was not returned back to us, so we have to assume it arrived and was thrown out mistakenly or was lost in USPS mail before arriving.
It appears a duplicate certificate was requested yesterday at 1:02:12 PM, and was mailed out the same day to the verified address : *******************************************
I have attached a UNOFFICIAL certificate here for your records only, as a courtesy. Please note: this unofficial certificate cannot be used as an official certificate for DMV or for court purposes.
Please let me know if there is anything else I can help you with today!
Consumer Response /* (2000, 7, 2022/08/27) */
(The consumer indicated he/she ACCEPTED the response from the business.)
I have received the certificate and thank Heather for her quick response.Initial Complaint
Date:08/12/2022
Type:Product IssuesStatus:AnsweredMore info
Complaint statuses
- Resolved:
- The complainant verified the issue was resolved to their satisfaction.
- Unresolved:
- The business responded to the dispute but failed to make a good faith effort to resolve it.
- Answered:
- The business addressed the issues within the complaint, but the consumer either a) did not accept the response, OR b) did not notify BBB as to their satisfaction.
- Unanswered:
- The business failed to respond to the dispute.
- Unpursuable:
- BBB is unable to locate the business.
I purchased this defensive driving course 7/14/22. If Not completed by 8/13/22, I will have to take re register and pay agan. Today is 8/11/22, why is my account locked out because of a timed out page, telling me I have to re register and pay again. Each class is $30 NOT $24. This website is a scam. Do not take their business. They will take your money and you cannot get an agent to help nor be able to get back into your account. I have been trying to call them and I am on hold for 40 minutes. My goal is complete the course to get my defensive driving certification. If not possible, I want my money back because this website seems to be a scam. Claiming to be nys dmv approved.Business Response
Date: 09/14/2022
Business Response /* (1000, 5, 2022/08/23) */
Emailed the customer directly to resolve and provide clarification on why they were locked out.
Email Transcript 8/23/2022 at 10:33PM EST:
Hello *************,
My name is Heather from the escalations team here at American Safety Council. I am following up on your BBB review complaint left on 8/12/2022 regarding your New York defensive driving course. I am so sorry for any inconveniences and frustrations this has caused. I would be more than happy to assist you.
After reviewing your account, it appears you were locke dout for quiz failure. Students are required to pass their module quizzes within 3 attempts. It appears that on module 2 quiz, you attempted the quiz 3 times and failed all 3 attempts. The representatove that you spoke too on 8/11/2022, did offer you a promotional code to re-register for free. I see you used that code on 8/11/2022 and re-registered.
Our courses are priced at $24.95 with no additional add on's, which are optional and not required. I see that you initially paid the $24,95 course fee. Are you seeing that the price shows $30 ?
Again, I do apologize for the inconvience and misundertsnding on why you were locked out. Per state regulations, we are unable to unlock any failed courses. We did offer the free course to re-register, which is unfortunately all we can do in these cases to stay complaint with the state of New York.
Please let me know if there is anything else I can help you with!Initial Complaint
Date:08/08/2022
Type:Product IssuesStatus:AnsweredMore info
Complaint statuses
- Resolved:
- The complainant verified the issue was resolved to their satisfaction.
- Unresolved:
- The business responded to the dispute but failed to make a good faith effort to resolve it.
- Answered:
- The business addressed the issues within the complaint, but the consumer either a) did not accept the response, OR b) did not notify BBB as to their satisfaction.
- Unanswered:
- The business failed to respond to the dispute.
- Unpursuable:
- BBB is unable to locate the business.
After paying and having a login to the site, it turns out its unusable. The question for ID verification are clearly not hooked up a to a backend for true verification and the questions they ask are even dubious. I've been unable to get Customer Service on the line.
I have to take this class and now because of this I am almost out of time and have to go to a different company.
I would like a 100% refund.Business Response
Date: 11/15/2022
Business Response /* (1000, 5, 2022/08/10) */
Hello **********,
I have actually previously responded via email to your request on Monday at 5:28pm.
Please see the email transcript below:
Hello **********,
My name is Heather from the escalations team here at American Safety Council. I am following up on your BBB review complaint left on 8/8/2022 regarding your New York Safety Council course. I am so sorry for any inconveniences and frustrations this has caused. I would be more than happy to assist you.
Firstly, I would like to sincerely apologize for the misunderstanding or troubles you have encountered using our identity verification system. I see here you initially registered for our Online Traffic School New York course which does use a 3rd party electronic verification system which using your personal information that is matched within the state of New York DMV. Unfortunately, with this EVS system, when it fails, we cannot bypass this information or lock, so we do provide a promotional code for the American Safety Council version of the New York Safety Council version since this course does not use the EVS identity verification. Instead of the EVS method, this course uses a security question and voice biometric verification method to verify your identity which is required to provide the course online by the state of NY.
I do see that a promotional code was provided to you " **************" on 7/21/2022 and was registered for the ASC NY course on 7/21/2022. I see you were having issues with the security questions and log-in issues.
Were you still requesting a refund or the initial OLTS New York Defensive Driving course or did you want additional assistance with logging in?
Consumer Response /* (3000, 7, 2022/08/10) */
(The consumer indicated he/she DID NOT accept the response from the business.)
Referenced email was never received. Want a full refund. Have moved on with a different company.
Business Response /* (4000, 20, 2022/09/23) */
Hello,
I am not certain why you did not receive the last follow up we provided and apologize for the delay with further follow up. Reviewing your account, I do see that on 9/7/2022 we issued a full refund in the amount of $29.95, per your request.
We regret that the course access was not able to be resolved and that a refund was necessary, but we hope that you consider the matter resolved. Please let us know if there is anything else we may assist you with.Initial Complaint
Date:08/02/2022
Type:Product IssuesStatus:ResolvedMore info
Complaint statuses
- Resolved:
- The complainant verified the issue was resolved to their satisfaction.
- Unresolved:
- The business responded to the dispute but failed to make a good faith effort to resolve it.
- Answered:
- The business addressed the issues within the complaint, but the consumer either a) did not accept the response, OR b) did not notify BBB as to their satisfaction.
- Unanswered:
- The business failed to respond to the dispute.
- Unpursuable:
- BBB is unable to locate the business.
I reached out to the company since I was locked out due to security.
I tried to explain to Manny that the answers to the questions were incorrect and I now know why. I initially signed up on a cellphone and the browser on the phone staggered the multiple choice answers who were recorded incorrectly.
I was now completing the course on a computer and Manny tell me that I created false answers when I told his its untrue.
I have been using this company for 12 years....am a repeat customer 4th time. I have successfully completed the course many times.
I am requesting a refund since the website and course are no longer working properly...constantly disconnecting my service and no one answering the phone number or chats.Business Response
Date: 08/24/2022
Business Response /* (1000, 5, 2022/08/08) */
Emailed the customer at ******************* to resolve issue.
Email transcript: 8/8/2022 at 3:22pm
Hello ***********,
My name is Heather from the escalations team here at American Safety Council. I am following up on your BBB review complaint left on 8/2/2022 regarding your New York Safety Course. I am so sorry for any inconveniences and frustrations this has caused. I would be more than happy to assist you.
First, I would like to sincerely apologize for the delay in response. I understand this can be very frustrating when you cannot contact a representative via live chat, phone or email in a timely manner.
One of our objectives, as an approved course provider, is to remain compliant with State regulations for course providers. In part, one of the requirements is validating student participation, and upon failure, students must be excluded. I understand there may have been an issue when you first set the answers up. As a result, unfortunately this caused you too failed the course.
Since you are a valued customer, I am willing to provide a promotional code to re-register at no cost. Would you be interested in this option?
Thanks!
Consumer Response /* (2000, 7, 2022/08/10) */
(The consumer indicated he/she ACCEPTED the response from the business.)
I was offered the chance to complete the course, which I accepted since I had already invested a few hours sitting through the course and dealing with chat/CR reps.
This time around though....I had no issues. I took the course in a quiet room and didn't have issues with the biometrics.Initial Complaint
Date:08/01/2022
Type:Customer Service IssuesStatus:AnsweredMore info
Complaint statuses
- Resolved:
- The complainant verified the issue was resolved to their satisfaction.
- Unresolved:
- The business responded to the dispute but failed to make a good faith effort to resolve it.
- Answered:
- The business addressed the issues within the complaint, but the consumer either a) did not accept the response, OR b) did not notify BBB as to their satisfaction.
- Unanswered:
- The business failed to respond to the dispute.
- Unpursuable:
- BBB is unable to locate the business.
I paid AYPO (which is apparently owned by American Security Council) to provide the mandatory 75-hour NY Real Estate course, which I completed. Upon completion of the course I was shown 30 exam locations to take AYPO's course, which I need to pass in order to take the state administered course. However, none of those locations are in NYC, where I live. The closest location is 3 hours away by train. I believe AYPO is violating the Americans With Disabilities Act by not providing a test location in NYC. Also, there is a reasonable assumption when paying for the AYPO course that I'd not have to spend a great deal of money and travel 6 hours round trip to complete the course, especially considering the service is marketed as being "completely online" and at your own pace. Had AYPO/ASC made it known that there closest test site was 3 hours away, I'd have surely chosen one of the many other providers that do have proctors available in NYC. AYPO/ASC said they will give me my money back so that I can retake the 75 hours with a provider with proctors in NYC. But I already spent my vacation weeks taking their course and do not think being provided a proctor in NYC is an unreasonable request and requirement for AYPO, which in theory is supposed to provide the service, from finding a proctor in NYC, especially since their competition have proctors in NYC. All I'm asking is that AYPO/ASC fulfil their service requirements, which ought to include finding me a proctor in NYC so that I do not have to pay so much extra to travel 3 hours to Poughkeepsie and 3 hours back in order for this company to fulfil the service that I paid for. If their competitors can find proctors in NYC, why can't AYPO? I get the sense from dealing with AYPO's "customer service" that AYPO's business model is to exact as much profit as possible concomitant to delivering as little service as possible. All I'm asking is that AYPO/ASC find a proctor in NYC so I can finish the course I paid for and completed.Business Response
Date: 09/01/2022
Business Response /* (1000, 5, 2022/08/08) */
Hello ***************,
Thank you so much for reaching out. I am so sorry for the experience you have had. American Safety Council is a 3rd party provider that offers the course on our platforms. We do not control the website nor do we control the test site locations. I am so sorry this was not provided up front, however you can contact their customer service directly at : [email protected] OR you can contact them at 877-724-6150. If i am not mistaken, these test site locations are only approved by the state of New York, so unfortunately this complaint may be address directly by the New York Department of State. You can also contact that department at (518) 474-4429 or (212) 417-5747 / or by email at [email protected]. You can even go up to the New York State Department of State Division of Licensing Services and speak directly to a representative. Their address is 1 Commerce Plaza
99 Washington Avenue, 6th Floor
Albany, NY 12231.
Again, I am so sorry for the inconveniences you have had, and hope this information was helpful.Initial Complaint
Date:07/31/2022
Type:Customer Service IssuesStatus:AnsweredMore info
Complaint statuses
- Resolved:
- The complainant verified the issue was resolved to their satisfaction.
- Unresolved:
- The business responded to the dispute but failed to make a good faith effort to resolve it.
- Answered:
- The business addressed the issues within the complaint, but the consumer either a) did not accept the response, OR b) did not notify BBB as to their satisfaction.
- Unanswered:
- The business failed to respond to the dispute.
- Unpursuable:
- BBB is unable to locate the business.
In July 2022 I paid for my daughter for her drivers education course at the American Safety Council Inc. I paid for course + permit prep package. The order ID ******** for the package. The company website says quote "Guaranteed to pass!" however this misleading. Their exam is only 20 questions also their practice test of 50 questions is not to the level of the actual DMV at California. I was very disappointed by the level of teaching materials. We will waste our time again to go to the DMV office and retake the test. My daughter will rely on the DMV booklet that was provided by the DMV staff. If this case will not be resolved I will contact California DMV about this school. I need a refund of the permit prep cost and will not accept any promotion code since I will not buy anything from their website again.Business Response
Date: 08/23/2022
Business Response /* (1000, 5, 2022/08/03) */
Emailed customer directly too resolve any misunderstanding at *******************
Email transcript 5:55 PM EST 8/3/2022
Hello************,
My name is Heather from the escalations team here at American Safety Council. I am following up on your BBB review complaint left on 7/31/2022 regarding your daughters CA drivers' education course. I am so sorry for the misunderstanding and confusion regarding the permit exam and course purpose. I would be more than happy to assist you.
Our California Driver Ed online course is a 30 hour requirement in order to apply for the permit exam. This course is not intended to use as a study guide for the permit exam as it is just a state requirement prerequisite. I do see that you purchased the California Permit Prep study guide, this would be the correct study materials for the permit exam in which you would take at the DMV. The permit exam is not permitted to be provided online and can only take at the DMV per the state of California.
I apologize that you felt the practice exam did was not at your standards. We will be reviewing the questions on the practice exams to make sure they are at par with the DMV permit exam.
At this time, these courses are evaluated yearly, so there shouldn't be any issues with passing the permit exam at the DMV by using our practice exam.
This course is a no fail course, which is "Guaranteed to pass!" since the final exam can be taken unlimited times.
Please feel free to contact me here if you have any additional questions or concerns.
Consumer Response /* (3000, 7, 2022/08/04) */
(The consumer indicated he/she DID NOT accept the response from the business.)
As I stated in my original complaint I request a refund for the permit prep of $9 which is different from the 30 hours permit course that costs $12. On the company's website I bought a package and I could bought the permit course only. California DMV should be informed about these practices.
Business Response /* (4000, 9, 2022/08/07) */
Hello ****,
I am so sorry however we can not provide a refund on a service we provided and your daughter has utilized. The student guide is in fact directly related to the permit exam provided by the CA DMV, to study and practice for the exam. I'm so sorry that you feel differently, however this is what we get from the state to study for the permit exam.
Consumer Response /* (4200, 11, 2022/08/08) */
(The consumer indicated he/she DID NOT accept the response from the business.)
The service you provided was not beneficial and was not required by the State. I will contact the state customer protection to help CA residents from such scam.
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