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Complaints
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Customer Complaints Summary
- 206 total complaints in the last 3 years.
- 36 complaints closed in the last 12 months.
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Initial Complaint
Date:08/15/2023
Type:Sales and Advertising IssuesStatus:ResolvedMore info
Complaint statuses
- Resolved:
- The complainant verified the issue was resolved to their satisfaction.
- Unresolved:
- The business responded to the dispute but failed to make a good faith effort to resolve it.
- Answered:
- The business addressed the issues within the complaint, but the consumer either a) did not accept the response, OR b) did not notify BBB as to their satisfaction.
- Unanswered:
- The business failed to respond to the dispute.
- Unpursuable:
- BBB is unable to locate the business.
I bought a few knives from this company and now as of 8/15/23 I have a pending $57 charge on my card that I did not authorize. I tried to go to their website and it's gone. I tried to email them and the email bounced back. I tried to call their phone number during business hours and no one answered. I don't know what they are charging me for and do not authorize any charges but I can't talk to them about it. They seem to have vanished.Customer Answer
Date: 08/15/2023
Shortly after I posted my complaint, I got an email from the business stating that they would cancel the pending charge. They also apologized for the issues. I am waiting to see if the cancellation goes through. If it does I will update my complaint, since I was seeking a cancellation or refund of the charge.Business Response
Date: 08/16/2023
First I would like to apologize you were on our list for call backs today. As for the website we had an unforeseen issue it is back up and running.
I'm sorry to hear there's some confusion about your order!
The Steel River USA Sentinel-Patriot Colossal and Amendment Flag Bundle offer you ordered was packaged and advertised as including a 14 day free trial to The National Self-Reliance Initiative, formerly known as Science of Skill Academy, which became a monthly subscription. This was described in the offer and on the checkout page. The subscription had already been cancelled for you, and refunded the past $57 charge per our return policy. Please allow 3-5 business days for bank processing time.08/15/2023 03:41pm - Refunded - $57.00 Trans-ID: **********
Customer Answer
Date: 08/17/2023
I have receieved a refund and am fully satisfied with the response to my complaint. Thank you.Initial Complaint
Date:08/13/2023
Type:Sales and Advertising IssuesStatus:ResolvedMore info
Complaint statuses
- Resolved:
- The complainant verified the issue was resolved to their satisfaction.
- Unresolved:
- The business responded to the dispute but failed to make a good faith effort to resolve it.
- Answered:
- The business addressed the issues within the complaint, but the consumer either a) did not accept the response, OR b) did not notify BBB as to their satisfaction.
- Unanswered:
- The business failed to respond to the dispute.
- Unpursuable:
- BBB is unable to locate the business.
In August 2023, I had a charge of $57 that appeared on my credit card account. I did not authorize this charge, nor did I purchase anything from these people that would cost that much. I purchased a free machete and paid $9.99 for shipping and handling only. There was no instruction that anything else would be charged. I want my money refunded to my credit card. This is classic fraud since I looked up on reviews and it seems that there are many many people who have had the same thing happen to them. I have contacted my bank about this fraud and they are investigating. My next step would be to involve an attorney for class action review.Business Response
Date: 08/14/2023
I'm sorry to hear there's some confusion about your order!
The Steel River Sabre Machete & Karambit offer you ordered was packaged and advertised as including a 14 day free trial to The National Self-Reliance Initiative, formerly known as Science of Skill Academy, which became a monthly subscription. This was described in the offer and on the checkout page.
I've canceled the subscription for you, and refunded the $57 charge per our return policy. Please allow 3-5 business days for bank processing time.Customer Answer
Date: 08/14/2023
The business has refunded my money and cancelled the subscription. I am satisfied. The complaint can be withdrawn.Initial Complaint
Date:07/13/2023
Type:Billing IssuesStatus:AnsweredMore info
Complaint statuses
- Resolved:
- The complainant verified the issue was resolved to their satisfaction.
- Unresolved:
- The business responded to the dispute but failed to make a good faith effort to resolve it.
- Answered:
- The business addressed the issues within the complaint, but the consumer either a) did not accept the response, OR b) did not notify BBB as to their satisfaction.
- Unanswered:
- The business failed to respond to the dispute.
- Unpursuable:
- BBB is unable to locate the business.
I just had a meeting with my accountant and found these fraudulent charges to one of my bank accounts. I have a total of 8 charges that I NEVER authorized!!! For a total of $456.00 I need this account closed and a refund issued immediately. Apparenttly one of my kids order something from SOS self defense on 11/28/22 for $9.95. Now my account is beinging charged $57 per/mo. Please advise! Thanks!Business Response
Date: 07/13/2023
The subscription was previously cancelled and refunded the past 60 days of charges per our return policy. The customer was notified via cancellation email and refund emails.Initial Complaint
Date:07/10/2023
Type:Product IssuesStatus:AnsweredMore info
Complaint statuses
- Resolved:
- The complainant verified the issue was resolved to their satisfaction.
- Unresolved:
- The business responded to the dispute but failed to make a good faith effort to resolve it.
- Answered:
- The business addressed the issues within the complaint, but the consumer either a) did not accept the response, OR b) did not notify BBB as to their satisfaction.
- Unanswered:
- The business failed to respond to the dispute.
- Unpursuable:
- BBB is unable to locate the business.
The company is SOS Self defense tools. In late June ** 2023. I purchased a knife for $9.95 S&H only as stated in the advertisement. But this Company made a unauthorized withdrawal from my bank account of $57. I never signed or agreed to such a transactionThey illegally withdrew my money. I would like my refund of all my funds. Immediately. This company is a total FRAUD!! SCAM!! A bait and switch.They need to be shut down.Business Response
Date: 07/10/2023
The Steel River Colossal Fixed Blade offer you ordered was packaged and advertised as including a 14 day free trial to The National Self-Reliance Initiative, formerly known as Science of Skill Academy, which became a monthly subscription. This was described in the offer and on the checkout page.
The subscription has already been cancelled for you and the $57 charge refunded per our return policy. Please allow 3-5 business days for bank processing time.07/10/2023 08:20am - Refunded - $57.00 Trans-ID: **********
07/10/2023 08:20am - Recurring turned OFFInitial Complaint
Date:06/16/2023
Type:Sales and Advertising IssuesStatus:ResolvedMore info
Complaint statuses
- Resolved:
- The complainant verified the issue was resolved to their satisfaction.
- Unresolved:
- The business responded to the dispute but failed to make a good faith effort to resolve it.
- Answered:
- The business addressed the issues within the complaint, but the consumer either a) did not accept the response, OR b) did not notify BBB as to their satisfaction.
- Unanswered:
- The business failed to respond to the dispute.
- Unpursuable:
- BBB is unable to locate the business.
I have no idea what these $57 charges are, I do not remember ordering anything from this company. I keep calling the 2 numbers listed and no one is ever available to take my callBusiness Response
Date: 06/19/2023
The Steel River Midnight Pearl Stiletto offer you ordered was packaged and advertised as including a 14 day free trial to The National Self-Reliance Initiative, formerly known as Science of Skill Academy, which became a monthly subscription. This was described in the offer and on the checkout page.
The subscription was cancelled and refunded:06/16/2023 03:42pm - Refunded - $57.00 Trans-ID: **********
Customer Answer
Date: 06/21/2023
Better Business Bureau:
I have reviewed the response made by the business in reference to complaint ID ********, and find that this resolution is satisfactory to me.Initial Complaint
Date:06/13/2023
Type:Product IssuesStatus:AnsweredMore info
Complaint statuses
- Resolved:
- The complainant verified the issue was resolved to their satisfaction.
- Unresolved:
- The business responded to the dispute but failed to make a good faith effort to resolve it.
- Answered:
- The business addressed the issues within the complaint, but the consumer either a) did not accept the response, OR b) did not notify BBB as to their satisfaction.
- Unanswered:
- The business failed to respond to the dispute.
- Unpursuable:
- BBB is unable to locate the business.
I PURCHASED A KNIFE FROM THIS COMPANY AND NOW AM BEING CHARGED $57.00 PER MONTH FOR NOTHING. I HAVE TRIED TO CALL SEVERAL TIMES AND THEY NEVER RETURN THE CALL OR ANSWER THE ****** I WAS CHARGED THE $57.00 ON 4/27/23 AND ALSO ON 5/30/23. I WOULD LIKE THEM TO STOP CHARGING MY ACCOUNT AND REFUND THE CHARGES.Business Response
Date: 06/14/2023
The Steel River Colossal Fixed Blade and ********************************** you ordered was packaged and advertised as including a 14 day free trial to The National Self-Reliance Initiative, formerly known as Science of Skill Academy, which became a monthly subscription. This was described in the offer and on the checkout page.
I've canceled the subscription for you, and refunded the past 60 days of charges per our return policy. Please allow 3-5 business days for bank processing time.Initial Complaint
Date:06/07/2023
Type:Billing IssuesStatus:AnsweredMore info
Complaint statuses
- Resolved:
- The complainant verified the issue was resolved to their satisfaction.
- Unresolved:
- The business responded to the dispute but failed to make a good faith effort to resolve it.
- Answered:
- The business addressed the issues within the complaint, but the consumer either a) did not accept the response, OR b) did not notify BBB as to their satisfaction.
- Unanswered:
- The business failed to respond to the dispute.
- Unpursuable:
- BBB is unable to locate the business.
On April 4th 2023 i accepted an offer by SOS to get a poker knife for free by just paying $9.99 shipping and handling Which I paid with my debit card Well, everything was fine until they started withdrawing money from my bank account without my authorization the first withdrawal which I did not noticed was for $57 made on 5/9/23 and the second unauthorized withdrawal for $57 was yesterday 6/6/23. The total amount of money withdrawn from my bank account without authorization is $114.00 I never agreed to pay anything else besides the $9.99 for the shipping of the free knife so I want my $114 back because they took that money without my authorization and thats theft. Thank you.Business Response
Date: 06/08/2023
I'm sorry to hear there's some confusion about your order!
The Steel River Colossal Fixed Blade and ********************************** you ordered was packaged and advertised as including a 14 day free trial to The National Self-Reliance Initiative, formerly known as Science of Skill Academy, which became a monthly subscription. This was described in the offer and on the checkout page.
I've canceled the subscription for you, and refunded the past 60 days of charges per our return policy. Please allow 3-5 business days for bank processing time.Initial Complaint
Date:05/22/2023
Type:Sales and Advertising IssuesStatus:ResolvedMore info
Complaint statuses
- Resolved:
- The complainant verified the issue was resolved to their satisfaction.
- Unresolved:
- The business responded to the dispute but failed to make a good faith effort to resolve it.
- Answered:
- The business addressed the issues within the complaint, but the consumer either a) did not accept the response, OR b) did not notify BBB as to their satisfaction.
- Unanswered:
- The business failed to respond to the dispute.
- Unpursuable:
- BBB is unable to locate the business.
On April 14 2023, I seen a charge of $57 that was removed from my bank account. I did not authorize this charge, nor did I purchase anything from these people that would cost that much. I purchased a free knife and paid $9.99 for shipping and handling only. There was no instruction that anything else would be charged. I want my money refunded to my bank account. And these people should be investigated for fraud since I looked up on reviews and it seems that there are many many people who have had the same thing happen to them.
They tried to deduct another $57 today and my bank closed that bank card.Business Response
Date: 05/23/2023
The Steel River Colossal Fixed Blade and Midnight Pearl Stiletto offer you ordered was packaged and advertised as including a 14 day free trial to The National Self-Reliance Initiative, formerly known as Science of Skill Academy, which became a monthly subscription. This was described in the offer and on the checkout page.
I've canceled the subscription for you, and refunded the $57 charge per our return policy. Please allow 3-5 business days for bank processing time.Customer Answer
Date: 05/23/2023
Better Business Bureau:
I have reviewed the response made by the business in reference to complaint ID ********, and find that this resolution is satisfactory to me.Initial Complaint
Date:05/22/2023
Type:Billing IssuesStatus:ResolvedMore info
Complaint statuses
- Resolved:
- The complainant verified the issue was resolved to their satisfaction.
- Unresolved:
- The business responded to the dispute but failed to make a good faith effort to resolve it.
- Answered:
- The business addressed the issues within the complaint, but the consumer either a) did not accept the response, OR b) did not notify BBB as to their satisfaction.
- Unanswered:
- The business failed to respond to the dispute.
- Unpursuable:
- BBB is unable to locate the business.
On may 16 l seen a charge of $57. to my account I did not authorize this charge.I would like my money refunded to my bank account.Business Response
Date: 05/23/2023
The Steel River Camouflage Stiletto offer you ordered was packaged and advertised as including a 14 day free trial to The National Self-Reliance Initiative, formerly known as Science of Skill Academy, which became a monthly subscription. This was described in the offer and on the checkout page.
I've canceled the subscription for you, and refunded the $57 charge per our return policy. Please allow 3-5 business days for bank processing time.Customer Answer
Date: 05/23/2023
Better Business Bureau:
I have reviewed the response made by the business in reference to complaint ID ********, and find that this resolution is satisfactory to me.Initial Complaint
Date:05/20/2023
Type:Service or Repair IssuesStatus:ResolvedMore info
Complaint statuses
- Resolved:
- The complainant verified the issue was resolved to their satisfaction.
- Unresolved:
- The business responded to the dispute but failed to make a good faith effort to resolve it.
- Answered:
- The business addressed the issues within the complaint, but the consumer either a) did not accept the response, OR b) did not notify BBB as to their satisfaction.
- Unanswered:
- The business failed to respond to the dispute.
- Unpursuable:
- BBB is unable to locate the business.
On 5/14 I was billed $57 for a RECURRING payment from Science of Skill (AGAIN!). This is the second time they have done this. I have previously filed a dispute with you about them and you resolved it but here it is happening again. I need your help again. The first complaint I filed was on 5/6/23. I have read many complaints on your site about this company and they have done this many times before.Business Response
Date: 05/22/2023
The Steel River Tomahawk offer you ordered was packaged and advertised as including a 14 day free trial to The National Self-Reliance Initiative, formerly known as Science of Skill Academy, which became a monthly subscription. This was described in the offer and on the checkout page.
I've canceled the subscription for you, and refunded the $57 charge per our return policy. Please allow 3-5 business days for bank processing time.Customer Answer
Date: 05/22/2023
Better Business Bureau:
I have reviewed the response made by the business in reference to complaint ID ********, and find that this resolution is satisfactory to me.
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